#NerdsUnite: Hashing it out "Define Creepy" (saintpepsi vs. Ables)

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#TalkNerdyToMeLover's @SaintPepsi

Welcome to a new collaboration.

Meet Andrew Ables.

We are in many senses very different and yet he has been a part of my life and basically my family since he became friends with my brother Stephen. We hold no animosity for each other yet we can find ourselves in disagreements here and there.

He’s a Player by trade with a smile and body used to percolate a girls senses, he is both abrasive and forth right. Still beyond his well chiseled exterior, is a mind that he has given equal attention to, making him a powerful tool for mischief. Now myself not being um... chiseled from stone; have on occasion pushed him into my general category of dumb jocks. Which I know he isn’t, a man whore kinda. Dumb jock not at all. 

With that being said recently he and I exchanged a talk on Facebook chat after he introduced himself to a friend of mine via third person, which I contend is just bad form. While it was a line from HIMYM it is the job of the wingman to speak this line not the intended. So I called him creepy. This lead to a few lines about the definition of creepy. Something I have written about in the past on this site. Don’t be that dude, “The Creeper.” See he thinks it’s creepier to be a creep in the background with someone never knowing you are doing it, as opposed to being creepy in the open. I am of the other view. Be it in real life on the net I think it’s far more creepy to make it known.  So we have decided to hash it out OPEN BLOG STYLE!!!! So Ables, make your assessment on creepers in the shadows.

Ables:

Here goes, whores get paid, I have not ever been paid for sexual activity, therefore, am not a whore. With that being straightened out, we can now move forward to discuss the art of being creepy, and what makes a “creeper” a creepy dude (or lady). Now, if you get on Facebook, and don’t plan on there being some creepy elements, you’re gonna have a bad time (name that meme). Facebook is completely designed around being creepy, if Facebook were not creepy, there is a good chance no one would be using it right now. Hence the new verb usage “I’m going to go creep on their profile”. This is all a bit misdirected, but it has purpose for my argument, which is simply: Creepy = Unknowning. After all there is nothing to fear but fear itself right? (name that guy). Jordan thinks I am creepy because his friend sang this song (which I watched all the way through mind you), and I commented “Hey, have you met Jordan’s friend Andrew?” Haha funny right? I know, I wrote it. Jordan tells me to stop being creepy...HOW is that creepy? To me, watching you sing your song, and reading your conversation with our mutual friend without you knowing is more creepy than making you aware of my appearance. Well, perhaps my opening (which admittedly sounds like I am hitting on her...but for me, it’s kind of like saying hello..so..yeah) Could I have practiced more couth and been like “oh Jordan, your friend’s song is super cool”, yeah I could have, but you know who says stuff like that? Everyone else in the freaking world. Guess what? I am memorable, people rarely forget who I am. And I am getting off topic again. So, Creepy is directly correlated with how much of the situation you are aware of. Complete understanding of any situation = not creepy. The less you know, the more you fear (which is a dramatic form of creeped), and therefore everyone should get educated and rise up against politicians. Damn, I suck at this staying on task thing.

Jordan:

I will attest to Andrew being very memorable. Still to me the not knowing is far less creepy. He asked me in chat, “Let’s put it into a real life scenario; watching you in the bathroom with you not knowing or watching you in the bathroom after I knocked and came through the door?” I personally would say the person that walked through the door. You won’t ever be creeped out by the unknown. So while the small statement Andrew made as an opening line wasn’t that creepy at all really. I mean he could have said something way worse. Knowing him personally, I know that was a very real probability. Still, he isn’t fully unashamed and so I may have been overzealous in my approach to his sentence. See, I have only ever been creeped out by people I know are fully creeping on me. When someone goes through your whole feed liking everything you have said or done. Going back years sometimes. That will full on freak me out. If they just go through it all and not like or comment on things, especially things going years back. I don’t have to feel freaked out. It’s the knowing that makes you freak out. Finding out that someone has pictures of you lining a room in their basement, will make you second guess your relationship with them. Still if I don’t know I don’t have to be bothered to care about it. In general obviously, girls deal with this way more. I know though of several girls that will haunt the pages of their Ex’s or find a boy they obsess over and follow everything he does. Don’t tell me you don’t start to wonder about the person that somehow always likes everything you do and comments about things you post the second after you post them every time. At first it’s flattering and then you just start to over analyze it. So yes I think the creeper you know, is far creepier than the one you don’t.

Ables:

But everyone does it, you should EXPECT people to creep on you. Also, you are more than likely just as guilty yourself of doing it. How can you scrutinize someone else for doing something you’re just as guilty of? (Minus the “liking” everything..that’s just weird”. Also, in reference to the bathroom thing, if I were in the bathroom with you, any amount of money says your behavior changes. When you feel as though no one is watching you, you’re incredibly vulnerable, anyone who has ever been snuck up on, or caught red handed doing something they don’t do around people, knows this feeling. One time in the dorms, I was looking out the window (like 7 floors up), and I was watching people (because face it, we’re all people watchers..it’s natural), then I got to thinking, how often am I being watched when I can’t tell if someone is watching me? To me, that is creepy. Being on stage = not creepy. Stalker, that stalks you, without you knowing? Creepy. Stalker that you met at a bar one night and won’t leave you alone? Annoying as hell. With all that being said, “creepy” is also directly correlated with how attractive the “creeper” is...creepy and romantic are really not so different.

Jordan:

So true there the line between creepy and romantic is so thin it’s almost microscopic. That’s probably why Facebook is the worst thing ever for getting over a relationship you were fully invested in. So while my actions may change if you are in the bathroom watching me pee. I guess I’ve never really felt vulnerable thinking people could be watching me or catch me unaware. I think recently especially. The amount of cameras and devices constantly monitoring us is crazy. Our cell phones have the ability to track where we are going all the time, people can hack our computers and remote access our webcams and watch us while we sleep. Face it! Anymore the world is watching. I have just grown accustomed to it. I guess that is why the known creep is more distracting than the shadow creep.

So in closing we have all been creepy at some time. Be it from the shadows or openly. The reality is we need to find that happy medium and once we have established a good report with someone then they can see the rest of our creepy aspects and we can see theirs. Let’s face it we all have our obsessions. Our friends and loved ones are just the ones that accept ours and deal with our weirdness.

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